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Postby LGB » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:30 pm

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Postby Kaneda » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:12 pm

Gaijin Punch wrote:Kaneda: certain ports need to be opened (at least for them to connect to you). Would suck if NTT blocked your outgoing ports though.


I checked the ports and it says that bittorrent is one of the sites it allows and doesn't have a firewall blocking it, so I dunno. Pretty lame.

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Postby Gaijin Punch » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:57 pm

Bit torrent isn't a site -- in fact, there are only default ports. There are trackers that require different ones event. I would suggest investigating a bit -- I'll bet you a shiney 100 yen coin you're doing something wrong w/ your client.
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Postby Sparky » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:05 am

I would give uTorrent a try for simplicity. Just read the Network FAQs, specifically sections #6-9 which should get you going.

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Postby Kaneda » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:17 am

Thanks for that link, it helped a lot and I got it running again.

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Postby Gaijin Punch » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:57 pm

Kaneda wrote:GP, I owe you a coke or two credits of Deathsmiles II at Shibuya Kaikan.


If my pink lungs can take it! ;)
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Postby Shou » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:35 am

Just checked out the fiber connection in my new place earlier this week....not bad but my first place in Ebisu was better.
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Postby Gaijin Punch » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:55 am

I need to check mine at home, and also append this thread for people moving around in Japan.

I have similar interweb setups in my home and office (both are apartments where the building owns the entire unit). My home features Tsunagunet internet which is already included in the ridiculous rent. It is 100Mb fiber, and in theory, is just fine out of the box. I got 2MegaBYTES per second download off of a healthy torrent. However, internet browsing is where things go pear-shaped. You get a proxied IP address by default (can't SSH in from outside) and traceroute reveals you jump through a maze of horseshit before getting to your desired website, no matter how clean or dodgy. The downside of this is DNS requests are a HUGE bottleneck. I've seen the browser time out, or take a ridiculous amount of time to get the IP. It's bullshit.

So, I applied for their "global IP" service, which I really need since I often forget to update stuff when I work at home. A week later I got it, and my interweb woes were 100% gone.

My office uses Fiberbit, and unfortunately the story doesn't end so pretty. I do have a global, however, dynamic IP. They still seem to be doing fucked up shit w/ traffic on port 80, b/c the DNS queries are like deadly constipation. It has really fucked me off to no end. I almost made the lady on the phone cry when I explained the problem and told her, "no, it's not my router --- I've tried every configuration, including not USING the fucking router". She didn't know what "connectionless, DNS, or routing" meant, so obviously I got nowhere.

So, direct-to-IP traffic is totally fine, but unfortunately, that's only used for torrents & chat clients. In the meantime, I'm stuck and I've not had the wits to call them again. I'm just too slammed with work.
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Postby Shou » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:17 am

Gaijin Punch wrote:I have similar interweb setups in my home and office (both are apartments where the building owns the entire unit). My home features Tsunagunet internet which is already included in the ridiculous rent.


Lucky you, mine is almost as good, only 1300 yen a month but I will need to traceroute to see how many hops I have...

Forgot to mention in the other thread about things I hate about here are how technically illiterate people are....appalling really...and the local network hardware they sell in stores is absolute shit. Buffalo products are just horrible. All of my stuff is imported from home (D-Link wired switches and wireless G routers all with higher spec than my connection....)
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Postby Greatsaintlouis » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:47 am

Gaijin Punch wrote:The downside of this is DNS requests are a HUGE bottleneck. I've seen the browser time out, or take a ridiculous amount of time to get the IP. It's bullshit.

I'm still pretty dumb when it comes to a lot of the underpinnings of the Intertubes, but can't you have your computer or router go for a different DNS server beyond what your ISP offers (and isn't it often advantageous to do this for reasons such as your own)?
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Postby Gaijin Punch » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:10 am

...and the local network hardware they sell in stores is absolute shit.


This would be compared to the absense of hardware in most American cities? Apparently Fry's is good, but it sucked when I lived in Honolulu. I had to order everything I wanted online, and I even had a CompUSA walking distance from my house. They went titsup though.

but can't you have your computer or router go for a different DNS server beyond what your ISP offers (and isn't it often advantageous to do this for reasons such as your own)?


Doesn't matter -- they still have control of the packets, and it seems like they route anything on port 80 through the southern tips of both Africa & South America.
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Postby Shou » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:50 am

Gaijin Punch wrote:
...and the local network hardware they sell in stores is absolute shit.


This would be compared to the absense of hardware in most American cities? Apparently Fry's is good, but it sucked when I lived in Honolulu. I had to order everything I wanted online, and I even had a CompUSA walking distance from my house. They went titsup though.


Fry's is better in the Bay Area but at least American stores sell proper equipment. D-Link isn't sold here. Linksys has pulled out of the regular consumer market.
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Postby Macaw » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:20 am

Last night I actually tried my hand at streaming on ustream. Ended up streaming various top secret stuff and random stupidity to a couple of pc98 people from IRC.

Went for like 3 hours but it was mostly stills. My internet upload is awful, about 0.17mb/s, so stuff in motion like games is fun lag time. Ustream suggests at least 0.3 to 0.4 for decent streaming.

Internet over here certainly sucks balls but the government is always talking about this world class national broadband network they are pumping over 10 billion into. Only now its been overshadowed by the absurd obsession they now have with internet filters and censorship in general in Australia. Believe it or not but porn involving 'women with small breasts' has now been banned here.
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Postby Gaijin Punch » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:58 am

Believe it or not but porn involving 'women with small breasts' has now been banned here.


Sounds like my kinda place.


In relation to other moaning threads, we can bitch about Japan all we want, but the fact is, the internet is unfucking believable (although it took them forever to get it started, and I was one of the poor bastards that paid by the minute to play online games for a couple of years). And yes, while Bic Camera and that god awful Labi(a) don't sell anything high end, you can always mosey down to Akihabara. I'd just as soon buy it from Amazon before any of them though unless I'm dying to have it. That generally comes in the form of a needed cable or something.
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Postby Greatsaintlouis » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:04 pm

If they share their secret for decent Internet infrastructure with the world and apologize for letting Yoko Ono out of her cage, I'll consider everything else forgiven.
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Postby Gaijin Punch » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:26 pm

Greatsaintlouis wrote:If they share their secret for decent Internet infrastructure with the world and apologize for letting Yoko Ono out of her cage, I'll consider everything else forgiven.


It's easy: make everyone live on top of each other. Think of how many more households X meters of cable can reach in Japan compared to North America.
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